My Pet Dumbo Rat Spike

by jessica
(liverpool)

THIS PIC IS NOT HIM hes the same but smaller

THIS PIC IS NOT HIM hes the same but smaller

ive got a 6 week old pet dumbo rat and unfortunatly it will not let me pic him up or handle him at all im starting to think he hate's me. and if i dont start handling him now well then it will be too late for me too handle him because it'll get used to being handled but i just can't what do i do help me

P.S. he will not let me go near him ive tried everythink HELP...

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Aug 01, 2012
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oops... NEW
by: Rat Lover Eve (no rats yet...)

Sorry, Jessica.. no cheese. Use a different treat.

Aug 01, 2012
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Food? NEW
by: Rat Lover Eve (no rats yet...)

Hey Jessica,
Try to find his bribe. Does he like lettuce? Cheese? Yogurt drops? Even exercise? Put one in your index finger and thumb and feed. When they eat from there without getting angry or scared, go up a step. Hold the treat in your palm on your fingertips. When this works try to put it in your palm with your fingertips in front of Spike and get him on you. Now is the hard part. Lead him up your arm and pet him when he gets your treat. And maybe it's because he may have no cage-mate. Buy another rat. Get a younger one, but keep the little one away. Let the 2 go through each other's cages and try each. After about 3 weeks of this they can meet. Make a harness for Spike and bring them together in the training area. Let them sniff each other, then watch them. If they bite each other hard separate them and try later. If they don't, good! Both work. Try them.
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Eve

Jun 03, 2012
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Hope it helps NEW
by: Ayla

I'm currently training my very hyper active new blue to be handled, and she is 6 weeks old as well.
Something I've learned from my previous rats is that they love to be rewarded even when they don't like you. Try opening the cage door and feeding him a treat. If he wants it enough, he'll have to take it from your hand. But boys can be lazy so don't give in cuz he's cute. Also, when picking him up out of his cage, do it as gently as possible, without disturbing his stuff. Part of building trust is letting him know that he has a space of his own. Only disturb his nest if you have to. And wear a hoodie when you hold him so he can hide from you while still being close to you.

Dec 09, 2011
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Dont worry itll be fine NEW
by: Megan (sudbury suffolk)

okay look i have a dumbo rat and he is very aggressive but after a while he got calmer i trie to feed him by hand and nothing hats you either try some tricks and maybe he/she will get used to u and you and your dumbo rat with have a good life together he/she just needs to used to u and make sure you sdont scare him/her to much as that can never make anything better hope this helps.....x

May 07, 2011
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i have a dumbo rat...its sooo cute
by: Anonymous

i have a dumbo rat too and it LLOOVVEESS ME!!!it also gives me kisses and likes to cuddle.Its probably scared of you. try to put yourself in the rats shoes and see how you feel with someone 50x bigger than you tried to hold and kiss you.;)

May 07, 2011
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i have a dumbo rat...its sooo cute
by: Anonymous

i have a dumbo rat too and it LLOOVVEESS ME!!!it also gives me kisses and likes to cuddle.Its probably scared of you. try to put yourself in the rats shoes and see how you feel with someone 50x bigger than you tried to hold and kiss you.;)

May 07, 2011
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i have a dumbo rat...its sooo cute
by: Anonymous

i have a dumbo rat too and it LLOOVVEESS ME!!!it also gives me kisses and likes to cuddle.Its probably scared of you. try to put yourself in the rats shoes and see how you feel with someone 50x bigger than you tried to hold and kiss you.;)

Apr 10, 2011
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dont give up
by: Anonymous

ive had the same problem with my boy patches, although he is a bit hyper and is always running around , but when ever i got the chance i would just gently pat him when he went by and eventually he got used to it, hes still hyper but is willing to put up with my love =p

Mar 13, 2011
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oh i forgot!
by: brattie mum

forgot to tell u - if spike is in a cage with lots of other big older males - it really may just be a matter of nerves there and that REALLY doesnt help him settle his other issues - so take him away from them and put him into the quiet safe place with his cubby and ur tee shirt like i mentioned earlier until he gets ok with u - then introduce him to the males - he has hand fear issues so that has to be worked out first - remember to wash ur hands so u dont smell like them or cats or anything! :)

Mar 12, 2011
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by: brattie mum

OH SORRY!! i double posted a few times - i didnt c my post so i thought it didnt take and i reposted! sorry jeanne! :)

Mar 12, 2011
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by: tired brattie mum!!

i was just telling u in conclusion - i hope these tricks work for u! iv had ratties all my life and they work for me - and it takes lots of patience but in the end he will love and TRUST u!! and sometimes it just comes down to hormones - i had a baby that never really calmed down and come to find out he was being picked on ALL the time by the big boys - so i neutered him and he lived happily ever after with the girls! LOL - he did get to live with the boys again too but he was always alittle nervous - but he turned out ot be one of my sweetest boyzzzz.... :*} so i wish u TONS of sucess with him!! i want to see him come around! please let me know how it turns out - u can find me on facebook at 'ronroni' - just send me a message ther - or u can mail me at saysomething4real@ gmail . com - k? k! luv and scritches to ur bratties!! :D

Mar 12, 2011
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by: sooootired...

i hope all these tricks help! i'v had bratties almost all my life and these things work for me everytime - takes some patience for sure - but in the end he will love and TOTALLY trust you!! oh - if u do have him in with other BIG boys - sometimes it all comes down 2 hormones - and u have to neuter him to calm his little nerves down. i had a baby boy that never really calmed down and it was bc he was getting picked on ALL the time by the old boys - so i neutered him and he lived happily ever after with the girls! LOLOL - and after a few months he could be around the boys too and bc he smelled like the girls they didnt pick on him too much - he sometimes lived with the boys- and he was always alittle more nervous than all the others - but overall just fine - one of my sweetest little boys ever... well - ok!! hope this all helps!! and so sorry for all the bad punctuation! i rarely type in caps and i find my carpel tunnel wrist works better if im not hitting downward to the period key on the keyboard - let me know how it all works out - im on facebook just look for 'ronroni' and send me a message there - or u can mail me at saysomething4real@ gmail. com - luv and scritches to ur bratties! :D

Mar 12, 2011
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by: tiredofpostingnow!

they LOVE tunneling into it and it allows you to take your hands and interact with him in the towel - he will come to see ur hands as more of a 'playmate' - associating your hands with play in the towel - and it also allows u to sneak in the ocassional 'pick up' with ur hands - scoop him up dont grab him around the ribs just yet - scoop him in the towel alot - dont lift him up high - he may jump - dont frighten him with heights from ur hands -this is the reason u should be sitting or lying down on the bed or the bathroom floor -and watever u do - dont EVER try and force him to stay in ur hands by holding him tightly in ur hands bc this only reinforces the fear of ur hands and MAKES him try to get out and away from them! think of it like ur a tiny pet and this HUGE thing was squishing u in his hands in an effort to try to force u to stay there- u'd try to squeeze out and get away too!! this may b one of the most common mistakes people make - trying to make him stay in the hand by force - again - be SURE if u walk out of the bathroom the toilet is CLOSED and the baby doesnt try to follow ur feet too close!!watch him!! i had a baby get under my foot as i was leaving and it dislocated his hip!! thank God my vet fixed him!! i thought i'd broken his little leg!!! so b careful!! also i knew a girl who's little sister had come into the bathroom and didnt close the lid behind her and it ended with the baby in the dunk! they're just little MONKEYS! they get everywhere!! so dont leave him alone in the bathroom or someone else may wind up accidently hurting him!! oh - and careful on beds too - friends little BROTHER got the rattie out and thought it would be fun to jump on the bed with the rattie! ...poor little thing died after the little boy accidently jumped on him - crushing him... sooooo sad... lotsa letters!! ok - ONE more post!!...oh man im tired - but i TRULY want 2 c u have a 'hand holding' success with ur brattie - so im trying to give u all my 'tricks' LOL ;)

Mar 12, 2011
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by: me again ;)

so anyhoo u've done the whole hand/treat thing for 2 weeks several times daily - u'v made sure no strange animal smells are on u - & no animals in ur room with him - low noise levels - and oh yeah - sleep in an old tee shirt for a week straight (i kno right? LOL) but what u want is an old tee to smell like YOU - so after a week of sleeping in it - give it to him - in his sleep box or in his hammock - so ok - all that done - next step - leave his cage door open so he can come out onto the bed - position the cage next to the bed somehow - i use a big box that makes the door level to the bed - and the curiosity will get the better of him! LOL - he will eventually come out - use the treat trick if u have to - lead him out like a horse with a carrot as far as he will go - sometimes they'll only go as far as the door itself and run back in - its ok - just stay on ur bed with the door open and he will eventually come out - it may take trying this everyday for an hour or so at night before u go to bed - but eventually he will venture out -call his name-scratch the bed covers loudly-they can hardly resist that for some reason - lol - careful - slow movements - just be there and let him explore the bed and YOU - u might wanna cover the bed in an old sheet or blanket in case he has an accident or wants 2 'mark' the area -usually by this time in the process he will let u scritch his head at least - or stroke his head or back - sometimes not - baby males are sensitive about their backs being petted bc old males usually bite them there. if u've gotten to the point where he will let u gently pick him up after the hand treat 2 week point - then u can just take him to the bed - no door left open thing - some ppl take them to the bathroom and let them run around on the floor and u sit with them and they come around and play on u like a set of monkey bars - just be sure the toilet seat is CLOSED - i had a baby jump from a tub into one once and it was HORRIBLE - he didnt drown thank heavens but he was in shock and could have died!! also be sure cleaning chemicals are OUT of the way off the floor! the point of this exercise whether on the bed or bathroom floor is to allow them access to YOU - the whole you - and be able to climb on you and interact with ur hands as 'play-time' & not be afraid - PLUS the limited running around space makes them interact with you more - when he can do this - run around on the bed or bathroom floor and climb on u - then he's getting good to go out into the real world like the den and run on the couch - BUT whether the bed or bath and eventually couch - have a HUGE beach towel on ur lap - ok - ONE more post!!...sheesh!!

Mar 12, 2011
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by: b'rattie mum

so ok - u've done this exercise in trust and treats several times a day or night for a coupl'a weeks - i kno - its hard not to try to hold him or pick him up 4 that long but in the end it will pay off... so heres step 2 - now that these 2 weeks have gone by - u've kept all other animals out of the room that could scare him - noise to a minimum - and oh yeah - be sure u always wash ur hands before going near him -if u DO have other pets u dont want to scare him with their scent - that includes especially BIG male ratties u may have - bc their scent is scary big time to a baby - especially if he's in the cage with those older bigger males and they are picking on him alot. that TOTALLY makes them nervous and skittish too! doesnt help them 'settle in' easy at all - i once had a baby BITE me and i couldnt figure out why - UNTIL i realized he had just been picked on by the old alpha male and was super scared in the corner and i grabbed the old boy and scolded him for picking on the baby and THEN turned around and picked up the baby and he SCREAMED and bit me - i realized he did it bc he WAS scared and he smelled the male on me - he was a pink eyed white so he couldnt see well anyway and i bet he thought the big ol' boy HAD HIM! LOLOL - poor baby... he ended up being my BEST boy ever! soooooo sweet and lovable! :) so theres hope for this little skittish fellow of yours! oooookay!! lots of letters here - one more post! LOLOL -

Mar 12, 2011
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by: B'rattie mum

...ok all that being said - lets try to figure it out - hes obviously sweet and doesnt WANT to bite - even though he's obviously scared - so he's definately got a fear issue. whether from fear of hands or nerves from noise - dont know - regardless - make sure he's in a nice cage with a little cuddle cubby - like a little igloo or a box type thing he can hide in and feel safe. remove him from all noisy areas - put him in your room and keep the door closed. cats or any other pets out!! just leave him there 4 a week - never trying to hold him - just open the door up occasionally and talk low and easy to him - sweet talk him - and ALWAYS give him a treat when u open the cage and put ur hand in to let him sniff it or otherwise and u are in his 'space' - never treat thru the bars bc later in life sometimes they grab 4 it too fast and wind up innocently nipping fingers at the bars instead. when he's in his 'safe' box sont take him out or remove the box - just let him either come out or take the treat from ur hand there while he's in the box. eventually when he hears the cage open he'll look for u - and his yummy treat! this whole exercise teaches him u are not threatening or scary -and he will also learn to associate ur hand with wonderful things like TREATS!! uuuuummmm - nice hand!! :) ok - lots of letters here - one more post - LOL

Mar 12, 2011
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by: B'rat mum

im so sorry to hear he's not letting u hold him - but being that skittish at such a young age usually means he has not been held alot by humans - petshop babies and breeders that are less than attentive to newborns and infant baby ratties have a tendancy to produce that type of behaviour. Then again - it could be a simple case of being raised in an area with too much noise or small children around that grab at them alot when playing - so they become "hand shy" -sometimes they have been raised in an aquarium, and that blocks normal noise so when they are finally out in the open in a regular cage with normal sounds around them - they are scared. u wouldnt think an aquarium would play havoc with them like that - but there are always the exceptions. And besides - aquariums hold the ammonia odors too much and are smelly and cause lung problems and the little sweeties have enuf trouble with THAT in the form of Myco. i think i may be running over my 3000 letters!LOL let me continue in the next post... :)

Mar 12, 2011
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by: B'rat mum

im so sorry to hear he's not letting u hold him - but being that skittish at such a young age usually means he has not been held alot by humans - petshop babies and breeders that are less than attentive to newborns and infant baby ratties have a tendancy to produce that type of behaviour. Then again - it could be a simple case of being raised in an area with too much noise or small children around that grab at them alot when playing - so they become "hand shy" -sometimes they have been raised in an aquarium, and that blocks normal noise so when they are finally out in the open in a regular cage with normal sounds around them - they are scared. u wouldnt think an aquarium would play havoc with them like that - but there are always the exceptions. And besides - aquariums hold the ammonia odors too much and are smelly and cause lung problems and the little sweeties have enuf trouble with THAT in the form of Myco. i think i may be running over my 3000 letters!LOL let me continue in the next post... :)

Mar 01, 2011
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sorry
by: unknow

IM SURE HE DOESNT HATE YOU HE PROBABLY IS STILL SCARED.MAYBE TRY APPROACHING HIM WITH TREATS AND NOT FAST, SLOW AND KINDLY.

Mar 01, 2011
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sorry
by: unknow

IM SURE HE DOESNT HATE YOU HE PROBABLY IS STILL SCARED.MAYBE TRY APPROACHING HIM WITH TREATS AND NOT FAST, SLOW AND KINDLY.

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